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My family technically has no minhagim that go way back, due to my parents being baal teshuva. So the customs in the families of the adult kids (me and my siblings) are all over the map with no real history.
We are not sefardi in general though, we are ashkenazi with some yekkishe minhagim as some of the family came from the Germany area and the minhagim made sense.
Not eating kitniyot and rice on pesach has always boggled my mind, since it is so easily recognized as different from wheat and the 5 grains.
How difficult would it be for us to no longer refrain from eating kitniyot and rice on pesach and to start using these things on Pesach?
Separately, is there a concept of eating these things when we are by Sefardi friends even if we wouldn’t cook with it at home?
As I’m not sure that we would end up cooking with kitniyot and rice at home due to the way others view these things.
Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated. If it is best to call in the question, please let me know.
There is no way for you to eat rice and kitniyot unless you’re sephardi. If you’re from European countries I would assume you’re Ashkenazi.
If you’re by someone who eats rice and they cooked meat, vegetable and rice in one pot, you would be able to eat the meat and vegetables.
Rabbi, couldn’t they go before a beit din and reject their ashkenazi minhag and then start holding a new, or preferable to them, minhag such as Sephardi?
Is that for rice and other kitniyot? So the issue is actually eating it ourselves, but eating by someone and the food was all cooked together, just don’t eat the actual rice and kitniyot?
IE if we go to our sefardi friends house and stay away from the actual kitniyot/rice in dishes, we can eat?
and are all things that they added to kitniyot nowadays part of it or just certain specific things from history like rice and certain types of beans?
Embrace your minhag. Baruch Hashem many items that are available and kitniyot free. Regarding eating at others houses, you cannot eat kitniyot ever, but you may eat any non-kitniyot foods they serve even though they were cooked in kitniyot pots, same with the silverware and any plates they serve it on. Hatzlacha
With all due respect, I hear the thought but there is no embrace of the minhag whatsoever.
I don’t understand the history of it, I don’t understand why and how we still keep it, I don’t understand how they could possibly create the minhag in the first place, it is not my family’s minhag going back many many years but a minhag by default.
Kitniyot and these things have never made any sense to me so there is no embracing of the minhag. At best there is a begrudging keeping of. I would love to find out of a legitimate way to get rid of the minhag.
I think the nation as a whole is long overdue for the Rabbis to get together and abolish the minhag.
Thank you so much for putting that in! My hebrew isn’t great, but from what I understand the Rav is arguing that there isn’t much history for it, so that makes the fact that everyone holds of it even more tenuous, is that correct? That this is a recent addition?
No. The Rav is arguing that some things that people claim are kitniyot may actually not be. However, kitniyot is not something Ashkenazim can disregard. They cant eat kitniyot. Yes, many rabbonim over the years wished they could abolish the minhag but the can’t.
Ah got it. Meaning kitniyot may ONLY be rice and certain beans, and then a lot of things get added like sesame and perhaps chickpeas (as an example only)?
Is it that they can’t or that they need to create some version of a quorum to make it work? Like I thought we can abolish a takanah with “greater in wisdom and in number” so couldn’t a large number of Rabbis make that work?
